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[FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENSION

Message par Eyeshield21 » 28 sept. 2017, 10:07

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2017-18 Panini Ascension

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Panini America Provides Detailed First Look at 2017-18 Panini Ascension (Preview) :

https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2017/09/ ... l-preview/

Panini America is aiming to deliver a technicolor twist to the world of basketball cards later this fall
with the all-new 2017-18 Panini Ascension, easily one of the most vivid, striking product releases you’ll see all season long.

The product delivers a colorful collecting experience equipped
with autographs of the scintillating 2017 NBA Draft class and the game’s top veterans.

2017-18 Panini Ascension is set to arrive in hobby shops across North America on November 22
and each hobby box (five cards per pack, 12 packs per box, 12 boxes per case)
will deliver, on average, one autograph, two Rookie Cards, two Rookie variations and five inserts.

The highlights of 2017-18 Panini Ascension are many and include . . .

First Buzz : 2017-18 Panini Ascension :

https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/2017/ ... all-cards/

- Rookie Ascent combines color, micro-etching and on-card autographs for a 1990s feel with a modern flair.

Delivering both the goods and the looks, this chase promises
to be one of the most colorful and collected autograph sets of the year.

- Rookies showcase the top 40 players selected in the 2017 NBA Draft.
- Ascension showcases action, expression and excitement — defining attributes of the NBA.
- Colorful inserts featuring holographic accents, eye-catching designs and unique die-cuts.

- Unique inserts such as Thrill of Victory, Overdrive Cuts, Making History
and New Frontiers Die-Cuts embody everything collectors love about chasing and building sets.

Hoping to hitch a ride on the surging influx of NBA talent, 2017-18 Panini Ascension
is a new brand in the Panini portfolio.

Built around 2017 draftees and current stars, each hobby box has one signed card to go along
with a virtual rainbow of colorful designs.

What’s buzz-worthy : Panini reveals a new line that it says is “one of the most distinct
and colorful sets to hit the hobby.”

The Basics : Panini describes this one as a product that “combines color, micro-etching,
and on-card autographs for a 1990s feel with a modern flair” and it will include the top 40 players
from this year’s draft as well as ink from rookies and top veterans.

- There will be two rookies and two rookie variations along with five inserts in every box.
- Rookie Ascent autos will all be signed on-card.
- Inserts will include The Thrill of Victory, Overdrive, Making History

and New Frontiers cards that Panini says “embody everything collectors love about chasing and building sets.”

Get ready for a burst of color with 2017-18 Panini Ascension :

http://www.beckett.com/news/get-ready-b ... asketball/

With the new NBA season just around the corner, collectors are slowly getting details about the hottest roundball releases
and there is a new brand on the way with the debut of 2017-18 Panini Ascension .

Releasing in late November, it promises to be a colorful effort all the way
from the base set to the inserts and autographs.

First Buzz: 2017-18 Panini Ascension :

https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/2017/ ... all-cards/

What’s buzz-worthy :

Panini reveals a new line that it says is “one of the most distinct
and colorful sets to hit the hobby.”

The Basics :

Panini describes this one as a product that “combines color, micro-etching, and on-card autographs
for a 1990s feel with a modern flare” and it will include the top 40 players from this year’s draft
as well as ink from rookies and top veterans.

There will be two rookies and two rookie variations along with five inserts in every box.

Rookie Ascent autographs will all be signed on-card.

Inserts will include The Thrill of Victory, Overdrive, Making History
and New Frontiers cards that Panini says “embody everything collectors love about chasing and building sets.”

A lot of this content will focus on the new rookie class, which already getting some serious pre-season buzz
from collectors and there will be hard-signed cards from big names like Markelle Fultz, Jayson Tatum, and Lonzo Ball.

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base / Inserts Parallels

Anchoring the 2017-18 Panini Ascension checklist is the dynamic base set and 40-card Rookies subset.
Each box should contain two base RC cards and two Rookie Variations.

Inserts transition the design to the next level of bold with an assortment of eye-catching themes and fonts.

Displaying a unique shape are the Overdrive and New Frontiers die-cuts.
Making History opts for a darker color scheme, while The Thrill of Victory is bathed in white
with images of emotional players celebrating a win.

While extensive details regarding the 2017-18 Panini Ascension base set are not yet available,
it does have a distinct and colorful look.

Each box is expected to have a pair of rookie subset cards along with two rookie variations.

The insert program for 2017-18 Panini Ascension continues the color theme but also add elements like die-cuts
and holographic accents on sharp designs. There will be five insert cards per box.

Revealed via the product’s sell sheet were sets such as the expressive Thrill of Victory
and Making History, which has a definite 1990s feel.

Overdrive Die Cuts should make a strong impression when pulled from packs and seen in person
and New Frontiers Die Cuts are likely to focus on some of the best young players around.

2017-18 Panini Ascension Autographs

Moving to the hits, with micro-etching and on-card signatures, the Rookie Ascent autographs bring
a wild canvas for the first-year studs.

These colorful inserts provide an early-season opportunity
to track down hard-signed cards of the very best rookies.

2017-18 Panini Ascension will have one autograph card per hobby box.

It has yet to be determined how many different collections are going to be part of this release,
but the one teased by Panini seems quite solid.

Rookie Ascent, which feature micro-etching, are signed directly on-card
and show players in their collegiate jerseys.

Estimated Release Date : 22/11/2017

Product Configuration : 5 cards per pack, 12 packs per box, 12 boxes per case

2017-18 Panini Ascension Hobby Box Hits :

- 1 Autographed Card
- 2 Rookies
- 2 Rookie Variations
- 5 Insert Cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Product Highlights :

http://gogts.net/2017-18-panini-ascensi ... all-cards/

- Introducing Ascension: One of the most distinct and colorful sets to hit the hobby, featuring autographs of the 2017-18 Rookie Class
and only the top veterans in the NBA today!

- Rookie Ascent combines color, micro-etching, and on-card autographs for a 1990's feel with a modern flare!
- Rookies showcase the top 40 players selected in the 2017 NBA Draft!

- Look for colorful inserts featuring holographic accents, eye-catching designs and unique die cuts!

Product Description :

Rookie Ascent

Rookie Ascent delivers both the goods and the look. Find the top rookies of the 2017 NBA Draft on one of the most colorful
and collected autograph sets in the hobby! All Rookie Ascent autographs are signed on-card!

Base, Rookies & Inserts

Ascension showcases action, expression and excitement--everything that makes the NBA great!

The collection of inserts, the colorful designs and the unique die cuts embody
everything collectors love about chasing and building sets!

- 1 Autographed Card in Every Box!
- Rookie Ascent – Features both the goods and the look. Combines color, micro-etching for a 1990s feel
with a modern flair!
- Find the top rookies of the 2017 NBA Draft on one of the most colorful and collected autograph sets
in the hobby! ALL Rookie Ascent autographs are Signed ON-CARD!!

- 2 Rookies in Every Box!
- Showcasing the top 40 players selected in the 2017 NBA Draft! Find (2) Rookie Variations in Every Box!
- 5 Insert Cards in Every Box!

- Look for colorful inserts featuring holographic accents, eye-catching designs and unique die cuts!
The collection of inserts embody everything collectors love about chasing and building sets!

- Thrill of Victory
- New Frontiers Die Cuts
- Making History
- Overdrive Die Cuts
- And MORE!

We’ll have much more on 2017-18 Panini Ascensions in the coming weeks here on The Knight’s Lance.
For now, though, enjoy this extended sneak peek :

Previews Galerie 2017-18 Panini Ascension :

https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2017/09/ ... sel-200648

https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/2017/ ... usel-75240

https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/2017/ ... usel-75240
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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENTION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par Naismith » 28 sept. 2017, 10:09

Et on continue ... donc je vais faire mes blagues de merde du coup...

Les prochaines à venir... Panini Pâques .... Panini Armistice ..... et Panini Mardi Gras

PS : Syd, c'est Panini Ascension avec un S

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Message par JP » 28 sept. 2017, 10:57

petit point positif les 3 premier choix de la draft ont des signatures plutôt sympa et appliquées

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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENSION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par Marti Laurent » 28 sept. 2017, 11:51

Tant qu'il y a des lapins qui continuent à acheter gentillement, pourquoi changer la formule :roll: :mrgreen: .

Ils vont bientôt sortir les Panini "on vous prends pour des co*s"...100% que tout le monde sera content :berk2: ...

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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENSION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par alain » 28 sept. 2017, 12:22

un mix entre les court kings , les prestige et les studio

panini ne renouvelle pas trop les graphismes :|
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Message par funkabilly » 28 sept. 2017, 12:26

C'est surtout le même set d'autos que dans les grand reserve de cette année.
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Message par derotter » 28 sept. 2017, 16:45

Cette typo quand même, c'est pas possible.

On dirait des fringues H&M au moment des soldes, "History", "Victory" et "Overdrive" :berk2:

Pour moi y'a un vrai problème de ciblage, sorry mais je suis pas une nana qui se fringue chez Desigual quoi...

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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENTION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par magiclud32la » 28 sept. 2017, 17:24

Naismith a écrit :Et on continue ... donc je vais faire mes blagues de merde du coup...

Les prochaines à venir... Panini Pâques .... Panini Armistice ..... et Panini Mardi Gras

PS : Syd, c'est Panini Ascension avec un S

moi je kiffe ces blagues :winner1:
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Message par jerome2350 » 02 oct. 2017, 14:10

magiclud32la a écrit :
Naismith a écrit :Et on continue ... donc je vais faire mes blagues de merde du coup...

Les prochaines à venir... Panini Pâques .... Panini Armistice ..... et Panini Mardi Gras

PS : Syd, c'est Panini Ascension avec un S

moi je kiffe ces blagues :winner1:
J'ajouterai que Panini a atteint le sommet avec cette collection :sivousme:
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Message par WILL28 » 15 oct. 2017, 04:26

c est quoi toutes ces couleurs ??? entre celles ci, les court kings , et meme les certified :cry: ... :berk2:

l 'année 2017-18 chez Panini les designeurs sont touchés par ce flot douteux de couleurs, on dirait un trip multicolore sur un arc en ciel ... :roll:

moi je veux une collec milieu de gamme avec un design "sobre "et des Au Rc On Card sous maillot NBA et je serais content :D

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Message par TCB » 15 oct. 2017, 11:00

En parallèle de cette collection ils devraient faire une collection "Panini Failure" y aurait de quoi faire !! :mrgreen:

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Message par Tieg33 » 11 nov. 2017, 11:14

Ouai ba vive le vintage :super: cette collection est :berk2:

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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENSION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par Eyeshield21 » 21 nov. 2017, 11:01

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The Panini America Quality Control Gallery - 2017-18 Panini Ascension (93 Images) :

https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2017/11/ ... 93-images/

Panini America is delivering a technicolor twist to the world of basketball cards this week
with the release of the all-new 2017-18 Panini Ascension , easily one of the most vivid,
striking product releases you’ll see all season long.

The product delivers a colorful collecting experience equipped with an arresting array of inserts
and autographs of the scintillating 2017 NBA Draft class and the game’s top veterans.

Set to arrive in hobby shops across North America on Wednesday, each hobby box
(five cards per pack, 12 packs per box, 12 boxes per case) of 2017-18 Panini Ascension will deliver,
on average, one autograph, one Rookie Card, one Rookie Card variation and five inserts.

Look for the return of Rookie Ascent on-card autographs that got their beginning in 2016-17 Panini Grand Reserve.
The rare Overdrive die-cut inserts fall just one per case, on average.

As you’ll see in the revealing Quality Control Gallery that follows, 2017-18 Panini Ascension
is full of compelling, different-by-design aesthetics and special-effects finishes.

Enjoy the sneak peek and stay tuned to The Knight’s Lance for continued coverage.

Preview Galerie 2017-18 Panini Ascension :

https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2017/11/ ... sel-208092

https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/2017/ ... usel-75240
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Message par Eyeshield21 » 21 nov. 2017, 11:15

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2017-18 Panini Ascension Black #1/1 EVAN FOURNIER

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Checklist 2017-18 Panini Ascension : 8|

2017-18 Panini Ascension Making History #36 Reggie Miller
2017-18 Panini Ascension Thrill of Victory #18 Reggie Miller

https://www.beckett.com/news/get-ready- ... asketball/

https://www.beckett.com/search/?term=20 ... start=2017

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/201 ... ball-cards

https://gogts.net/2017-18-panini-ascens ... checklist/

http://www.paniniamerica.net/dspFullChe ... m?prod=626

https://www.sportscardslist.com/search/ ... 0Ascension


2017-18 Panini Ascension : 8|
Spoiler : :
2017-18 Panini Ascension Base / Rookie Set Checklist 140 cards
Parallel Cards : Blue #/125, Red #/75, Green #/25, Black 1/1

Parallels (#1-100) :

- Blue /125
- Red /75
- Green /25
- Black /1

Parallels (#101-140) :

- Blue /129
- Red /75
- Purple /50
- Green /25
- Black /1

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base Rookies Set Checklist 40 cards
Parallel Cards : Blue #/129, Red #/75, Purple #/50, Green #/25, Black 1/1

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base Veteran Throwback Set Checklist 20 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base Rookies Variation Set Checklist 40 cards
Parallel Cards : Blue #/129, Red #/75, Purple #/50, Green #/25, Black 1/1

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base Autographs Set Checklist 68 cards - Serial Multiple Numbered #/
Parallel Cards : Black 1/1

2017-18 Panini Ascension Base Autographs Green Set Checklist 67 cards - Serial Numbered #/25 or#/10 or #/5 or #/3

2017-18 Panini Ascension Rookie Ascent Autographs Set Checklist 33 cards - Serial numbered #/299.
Parallel Cards : Red #/75, Purple #/50, Green #/25, Black 1/1

2017-18 Panini Ascension Composure Set Checklist 20 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Golden Era Set Checklist 10 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Making History Set Checklist 40 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension New Frontiers Die-Cuts Set Checklist 20 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Overdrive Die-Cuts Set Checklist 20 cards - 1 per case

2017-18 Panini Ascension Reaching New Heights Set Checklist 10 cards

2017-18 Panini Ascension Thrill of Victory Set Checklist 20 cards

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Re: [FICHE] 2017-18 PANINI ASCENSION (22 Novembre 2017)

Message par Eyeshield21 » 21 nov. 2017, 14:20

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vu sur Blowout :super:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167068

Ascension is releasing this week and the checklist is now out! Now whilst this is not a mid or high end release,
there is enough info to do a reasonable Set Analysis for it. So here it goes....

Interesting Points :

- 8 of the 12 boxes per case will have a Rookie Ascent auto on average
- There are 281 1/1 cards
- For once the Lakers don't have the most hits! It's in fact the Kings, but the Lakers still have the most autos

Case Breakdown (On Average) :

12 Boxes per Case
12 Packs per Box
5 Cards per Pack
1 Autograph
2 Rookies
2 Rookie Variations
5 Inserts

Detailed Breakdown (Raw Numbers in Brackets) :

12 Autographs per Case
8 (7.98) Rookie Ascent Autographs per Case
24 (24.18) Numbered Base / Insert Cards per Case
1 Overdrive per Case

Ascension (17-18) Set Analysis :

Total #d Cards : 67,337
Total # Base Cards : 45,000 (66.83% of #d Cards)
Total # Autographs : 22,337 (33.17% of #d Cards)
Total # Ascent Autographs : 14,850 (22.05% of #d Cards)

Total # Cases :

22,337 Autographs in the set
12 Autographs per Case
22,337 / 12 = ~1,861 cases

Round down to ~1,850 cases in total

Card Set Hit Ratios :

Ascent Rookie Autograph (#/299) = 5 (5.30) per case
Ascent Rookie Red Autograph (#/75) = 3 per 4 cases (1.33 per case)
Ascent Rookie Purple Autograph (#/50) = 1 (0.89) per case
Ascent Rookie Green Autograph (#/25) = 4 per 9 cases (0.44 per case)
Ascent Rookie Green Autograph (#/1) = 1 per 56 (56.41) cases
Overdrive Case Hit -> ~1860 cards in total
20 cards in the Overdrive set -> 1860 / 20 = ~Print Run of 93
1 of 1 = 1 per 6-7 cases (6.62)

Top Teams by Total # of Hits (#d Cards) :

Full List : http://130point.com/setinfo/set_info_ou ... %20(17-18)

Top Teams % Chance of Hit (#d Card) / Case :

Top 30 Players by Total # of Hits (#d Cards) :

Full List : http://130point.com/setinfo/team_info_o ... %20Players

Top 30 Players % Chance of Hit (#d Card) / Case :
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